Wednesday, August 10, 2005

Believers frequently bear responsibility for atheism. For, taken as a whole, atheism stems from a variety of causes, including a critical reaction against particular religious beliefs, and in some places against the Christian religion in particular. Hence believers have more than a little to do with the birth of atheism. To the extent that believers neglect their own training in the faith, or are deficient in their religious, moral or social life, they must be said to conceal the face of God and religion.




Gaudium et Spes

17 Comments:

Blogger Velvet said...

heeeeeeey!!! hello there is hould be packing LOL-- yes i agree this is just one aspet of atheism- but you are my favorite atheist by far!!! lol, after CS Lewis ;)

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:26:00 PM  
Blogger Velvet said...

don't you love Cassie? lol

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:27:00 PM  
Blogger Velvet said...

lol
1- cassie is silabella from our feminist blog
2- tomorrow flying to rome on the 10pm flight
3- going with my church youth group
4-to rome first and then to cologne to see the pope on the World youth day pilgimage

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:55:00 PM  
Blogger Velvet said...

hhhhhhmmm.. i'm not exactly sure, but i DO know you were thinking/reacting against/from the Western Catholic definition of God, (and even these definitions you seem to have some slight misconceptions about...) yet there are differnet denomination/religious perspectives of God that are NOT wrong, they are just outside the tradition of the Roman Catholic Church... but this is not really relevant... because IF God is real and if God is ONE, he reveals himself to ALL in whatever way...through whatever tradition and culture... I myself find it very refereshing to see the Eastern perspective (for example instead of studying St. Augustine one could read St. Gregory Palamas, a Church father of the Eastern catholics) in doctrinal tradition it is frustrating because simply in attempting to define God we somewhat lose the truth of His essence, for a word never encompasses the reality of that which it grasps at. I find it veeery very beautiful to read the mystical writings of ANY and every faith...for if you look closely at them... all come to a VERY very similar understanding of the ONE, sometimes referred to as GOd sometimes just He... or whatever they call him... but you know... its not always the "official" religion of say Hinduism or Islam or Buddhism that has common threads, but usually (I find) the seers and mystics of these faiths who seperate themselves from the tradition and seek the encounter and uniting with the ONE being... its very beautiful and stunning to see the common ness between say Hildegard of Bingen and some random hindu seer... they both KNOW, in the biblical sense, the same beauty the same truth... they have found it within

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 2:53:00 PM  
Blogger Velvet said...

i'm so confused... hypnotherapy? i don't remember mentioning that

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 3:27:00 PM  
Blogger Velvet said...

At best, I think this statement is very misleading.
It should be corrected to this:
"Only living beings can love, but anything or being can be loved."

I think this is based upon a specific definition of love so perhaps what Love is should first be agreed upon...?

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 3:54:00 PM  
Blogger Velvet said...

Does that mean that without the bridegroom a bride cannot originate love from within herself and pass it on? Why can she not? Why is only the man considered to be the giver of love and the woman the receiver of love? Strange...

Well, think of it biologically- from the Catholic perspective, everything SEEN is a making evident or visible of the UNSEEN, so in terms of the body, the woman cannot give life without the giving forth of the man into the woman to crete life within her, so this is making visible the spiriutal reality that when the WOMAN accepts God's life in her she hence "gives birth" to love...

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 3:59:00 PM  
Blogger Velvet said...

or participates in the reative act of God, which is to Love, to give and participate in the Divine life or energies of the Trinity

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:01:00 PM  
Blogger Velvet said...

*creative

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:01:00 PM  
Blogger Velvet said...

When were you in India?

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know that I get sidetracked at work.. and play around a bit... take time off to talk.. But this is ridiculous HAHAHAHHA SHAME!

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:24:00 PM  
Blogger Velvet said...

I'm NOT at work - MWAHA!

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:27:00 PM  
Blogger Velvet said...

well i was born and raised in New Jersey. I am ethnically Italian and Irish LOL- a guinea-mick (lol ryan)

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:36:00 PM  
Blogger Velvet said...

I like that Tyrel.

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:36:00 PM  
Blogger Velvet said...

Love, as I see it...

love, is suffering, discomfort, pain, trial eagerly embraced for the benefit of the beloved... (includes those things you mentioned Tyrel...)

its oneness

its giving

its receiving

its completion

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:44:00 PM  
Blogger Velvet said...

Love is the person itself - the object of my love becomes the personification of love itself. ----------------->>>

yes YOU SAID IT BETTER

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:57:00 PM  
Blogger Velvet said...

love is an act, but it is also embodied in a person-- totally!!

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:58:00 PM  

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